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if there was a god, that would be a picture of george bush bleeding. but of course, there is no god.

Bloody hell!

It's very easy to sit in the comfort of your home or your office in the United States and cast judgement upon soldiers who are being killed by car bombs every single day, isn't it?

Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you. How dare you, any of you, cast dispersions on the men and women of the US military. Hand signals and warning shots into the air were given before the man and woman were shot. Women and children are being used to deliver bombs into coalition and Iraqi facilities. It's a kill or be killed situation when you have a car driving towards a checkpoint refusing to stop no matter how many times they are told to stop or how many warning shots are fired into the air.

This is what pisses me off about the yellow ribbon wearing left. Michael Moore dedicated some stupid assed award he got to the troops. The left claims to oppose the war but support the troops. The left is trying to have it both ways and it's not working.

I'd like to see the left put up or shut up. Put up and go to Iraq. Go to Iraq for any reason you want. The enemy is killing aid workers who have spent the bulk of their life trying to help the Iraqi people. Do you really think they give one damn bit about you and your cause? Do you really think they give one damn bit about any Iraqi citizen? Do you really think it makes any difference to them? Go to Iraq, aid and comfort the enemy, provide humanitarian aid to the Iraqis, just walk around and take in the sites. And when you are killed tell me how much your life was worth to the terrorists in Iraq.

And to add to it, the liberal press is aiding and comforting the enemy every time the publish an article or photographs such as those linked. Show me one article that tells of a school being built. The only reason anyone knew a new water treatment plant was being opened was because a bomb blew up and killed a bunch of children. Show me an article that tells of a water plant opening without someone being killed. Show me one article that demonstrates the humanitarian efforts by our soldiers as they face life-threatening dangers from suicide bombers. Can't do it because it doesn't serve the liberal press to print them. However, it serves the recruitment folks of Al Qaeda just fine to have pictures of women and children being killed by coalition forces. The liberal press here in the US and the UK doing Al Qaeda a lot of good and their own militaries very little good. That, boys and girls, is providing aid and comfort to the enemy, and that my friends is TREASON.

SHAME ON YOU. For supporting the invasion of a sovereign nation which was NO IMMINENT THREAT to the U.S., in violation of U.S. law and POLICY. I know you right wing nuts don't care about international law.

SHAME ON YOU for supporting a war mongering Administration that PUT OUR FIGHTING MEN AND WOMEN INTO THIS MISERABLE SITUATION.

Well, then, Andy, better have us taken out and shot, because if refusing to remain silent while tens of thousands of Iraqis are slaughtered in a war forced upon us by the lying, scheming, evil men and women running our country is treason, then call me Benedict Arnold.

fuck the military. they are killing children, all you bible readin' retards.

Maybe we liberals keep missing your so-called point because you don't actually have one.

1> Which 'he' are you referring to?

2> You right-wingers keep pointing to the fact that liberals agreed with Bush's assessment as though that's some kind of indictment against them or they're hypocrites for rejecting it now. Congress doesn't have its own independent military intelligence agency; they see what the White House wants them to see. But in any case, 21 Democratic senators and 126 Democratic representatives voted against the authorization to go to war. (I suppose in your mind they thought Saddam Hussein had WMDs but wanted to leave us at his mercy because they hate America so much.) And your statement that "Even the UN weapons inspectors...weren't convinced" isn't entirely correct, as Scott Ritter, who headed the inspection teams throughout the '90s, said point-blank that Iraq had no WMDs and that Bush was just using the issue as a pretext to go to war.

3> We are leaving threats to fester. Al Qaeda now has operatives in 33% more countries than they did on 9/11. Our continued occupation of Iraq against the will of the Iraqis has turned the country into a breeding ground for new terrorists, and has stirred up anti-American hatred throughout the Islamic world. We still have no idea where OBL is, and Bush isn't at all concerned. Our ports and chemical plants are as insecure as they were on 9/10. And in the homeland security indignity of the day, the administration is forcing Washington DC to waste over $10 million of its homeland security funding on protecting inaugural events instead of on long-term security improvements. Homeland security is a joke, a network of Potemkin villages designed to lull people into a false sense of security through impressions of activity.

4> No, they have not. The policies that put our soldiers in a position where they kill civilians aid the enemy. The photos and videos are accurate depictions of real events. If we suppress the truth because others might use it against us, then we have already lost.

5> Don't know, can't ask them. Can't ask the tens of thousands killed since we invaded whether it was worth it either. Do you think it's just a matter of body counts, and that until we surpass Hussein's total, we're better than he was? (Or maybe even if we surpass it we're still better because we say we are.)

6> Sure, I can. Every public statement I've made has attacked the administration for getting us into this mess, rather than the soldiers on the ground (well, apart from the Abu Ghraib scandal, where everyone from top to bottom in the chain of command is responsible for the atrocity, and those Townhall.com troglodytes who tried to downplay torture as merely fratboy fun are accomplices to the horror).

7> I'd take precautions to keep the exploding vehicles from reaching the checkpoint...say, with tire-puncturing spikes on the ground. (Maybe that's not an option though, since our wise leaders have decided they'd rather blow $40 million on inaugural parties than give vehicle armor to our soldiers.)

8> No. I supported the first Iraq war, I supported the liberation of Kosovo, and I supported the attack on Afghanistan until I learned that US troops were using local warlords of dubious loyalty to do their fighting for them and turning a blind eye while prisoners were allowed to suffocate in sealed railroad cars. As for suggesting I would have ignored the threat of Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito, you can take that axis of evil and shove it up your ass.

9> No, I've hugged my husband.

10> Gee, thanks for reminding me that Saddam Hussein was evil--I had forgotten that! (Dipshit.) But Bush has killed tens of thousands, is driving millions into poverty by shifting tax burdens off the rich & on to the poor, standing by while friends like Ken Lay rip off people to the tune of billions and trying to undermine the single most effective tool for keeping the elderly out of poverty; his nominee for attorney general has declared that Geneva Convention protections for prisoners are "obsolete and quaint", he has refused to hold anyone accountable for anything (proclaiming in essence that his 3% margin of victory in November completely exonerates him of any blame he may or may not deserve from his first term and gives him complete license to do anything in his second); his fiscal recklessness threatens to jeopardize the financial health of America for the next half century. He holds no regard for the opinions of anyone in the world other than the 51% of people who voted for him, going out of his way to deliberately provoke and alienate them. He takes counsel from religious zealots who believe we are in the end times and that we should hasten the return of Jesus so that evildoers may be eternally punished--in essence, wishing to turn this world (the one we all fucking live in) into hell so that we can bring about the next. And he sends honorable men and women to their deaths in a war that cannot be won, denies them the means to defend themselves adequately, and pays mere lip service when they lay down their lives for his mission. Maybe you don't call that evil--maybe you think there's nothing wrong with it, or maybe you don't think it rises to the level of "evil". But I do.

For the record: The $40 million spent was private donations and not US tax money. But, regardless, I find it bizarre that people donated $40 million for the re-inauguration of 43 that could've been donated to care for the homeless, the tsunami relief effort, to provide care for children at St. Jude Childrens Research Hospital, or any other number of worthy causes. But, it's not money that could've been used by the President to buy armor for soldiers because it wasn't his money to spend.

And your perspective was interesting, but it's not really necessary to call people dipshits because you don't agree with their point of view. I didn't insult you, yet as liberals most often do, you insulted me again and again and again.

Not to drag this out any further--this is my last response in this thread of comments.

Andy, I can be quite civil and respectful of people with different political views if they accord me the same courtesy. Don't assume you know what I think; if you want to know, ask me--and not an accusative one. Don't presume that you need to remind me of the patently obvious (Saddam Hussein was evil--duh!) And don't view me as a moral relativist incapable of distinguishing between Mother Teresa and Hitler.

Oh yeah, and stop accusing liberals of treason. There's a very precise legal definition of treason, which doesn't include news reporting unfavorable to the current regime. There's also a very precise legal definition of libel (also slander, defamation of character, etc.), and if you ever included a name with your accusations, they probably would fall under it.

Spare me these indignities and we'll get along fine. But keep asking "why can't you stop hating America?"-type questions and I'll continue to feel free to smack you down like a bug.

HAND.

" I didn't insult you, yet as liberals most often do, you insulted me again and again and again."

Calling anyone who dissents a traitor isn't an insult?

Just curious: are you in the military, Andy?

Andy, I'm not exactly where you've learned your history, both past and present, but here's a little refresher.

First, the Administration's ONLY justification for overriding the War Power's Act was because Saddam Hussein was an IMMINENT threat to US National Security. (Uhh..remember all the fear mongering about "mushroom clouds). That was wholly false, OFFICIALLY pronounced as false. Condi Rice can spin and spin allll she wants, it doesn't change the facts. And if she, the Secretary of WAR, or the President had ANY integrity, they would at minimum APOLOGIZE to the American People and at most..RESIGN.

Second, the U.S. as POLICY had NEVER invaded a SOVEREIGN nation because it was ruled by a "bad man". For your edification, this nation has supported dictators (including Saddam Hussein) throughout its history when it was in its interest to do so. And NO, I'm not advocating dictators. I am stating how this President has fundamentally changed the policy of this nation, given it precedent, and now placed the US in the position of being a war mongerer in the same vein as North VietNam, Korea and any one of the African nations. We no longer have any moral stance to lecture the rest of the world on ANYTHING. YOUR President is responsible for that. We do NOT send OUR flesh and blood to solve the internal affairs of other nations. Saddam was a threat to his region? Fine. His region apparently didn't see him as much of a threat. And that INCLUDED the Israelis.

Third, this country was FOUNDED on dissent. Dissent is PROTECTED under the Constitution which you and your ilk like to proclaim to be so in support of. Disagreement is not treason. But a President that LIED to the American People and started a war under false pretenses certainly IS.

Unwrap yourself from the flag and actually take a look at what the POLICIES of this President and Administration that you love so much ARE...and what they have wrought.

OH WHAT FUN! I'm backtracking here to catch up on all the stuff I missed thus far. You guys have been having a ball I see. Once again the reality-based community having a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Easy pickin's! Thank you, all my liberal compadres, for the priceless entertainment!

" I didn't insult you, yet as liberals most often do, you insulted me again and again and again."

Errrr... sorry to all offended I'm sure..... but there's someone screaming covered in blood on my screen..... there's someone screaming covered in blood on my screen.....

Let's not be distracted - there's someone screaming covered in blood on my screen.....

"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
Very sobering thought!